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Post by shadow on Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:52 am

Who do you think should win?



personally I'm a fierce supporter from Obama. McCain just seems like a second bush to me.

[Edit - Ip - Corrected McCain's surname Wink]
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Post by Ip Lockard on Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:56 am

Obama out of the two, although I'd still prefer Mike Gravel or Dennis Kucinich over him.

His voting for FISA and choice of Biden I just cant agree with.

That said, McCain is insane, Palin was a pandering choice to all the ex-Hillary supporters and has less experience than Obama, despite than being the Rep.s main attack point.
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Post by Rayf Drayson on Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:06 am

Palin's the governor of Alaska, a state with more caribou than people. She has all the political experience of a Boy Scout pack leader.
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Post by Ip Lockard on Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:08 am

You guys have seen the BBC world survey on this right?

All 22 countries voted in favour of Obama.

Bit worried about this apparent 15pt lead McCain has over the Independents though.
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Post by shadow on Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:12 am

Rayf Drayson wrote:Palin's the governor of Alaska, a state with more caribou than people. She has all the political experience of a Boy Scout pack leader.

lol, that one made me laugh. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Post by Skinny Bones Jones on Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:59 am

Obama fer sho'.

Not just because him and his family are ridiculously good looking for politicians.
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Post by tim09 on Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:07 am

Depends who the media wants to win really.

I mean he talked about a pig with lipstick referring to the Economic policy of the republicans and a george bush quote and they take it completely out of context and pretend it was directed at Palin
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Post by jerryGFL on Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:08 am

yeah i fully support obama as well.I think hes the right person for teh job and what he doesnt have in expirience yet wont matter once he has the job because he will have more assistants and advisors than KiaSneak can dream of.
No seriuosly we dont want McCain he is an old senile ***** (stupid non swearing rule i inserted a few stars).
Just imagine him having a heart attack and that Palin women running the country...
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Post by Palodigon on Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:25 am

Looks like we have a full support for Obama on this forum Razz
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Post by Flamur on Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:30 am

I guess his trip to Europe worked.

America needs Obama. Another mandate with a republican (Especially one such as McCain) will just bring their standing with the rest of the world lower, and lower, and lower.
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Post by widdows9000 on Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:35 am

I agree Obama should get in, but there's still a hell of a lot of racism in America and that could really screw him over...
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Post by Ip Lockard on Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:36 am

widdows9000 wrote:I agree Obama should get in, but there's still a hell of a lot of racism in America and that could really screw him over...

It works both ways Widds, I cant see more than a tiny % of the black population voting for McCain this year, even if they voted Bush last time.
I don't think it will swing it much in either direction tbh.
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Post by Rayf Drayson on Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:46 am

I'm a bit worried because I'm not sure how athletic Obama is. That's important, for him. Chris Rock said it best: the first black president of the US will be able to be constantly dodging and ducking behind things while speaking.
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Post by Skinny Bones Jones on Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:38 am

Me and my old man have a death pool, he has Obama and I have Paul Daniels.
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Post by twaters on Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:43 pm

I want Obama to win, mainly 'cos he's black. Got nothing on KIA being an alien, but i think it's an achievement nonetheless (not being black, getting into office in the US while being black).
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Post by twaters on Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:44 pm

Also, i see we have this thread, but is no-one interested in UK politics?
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Post by Deathtoll32 on Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:54 pm

I think McCain should win. But that's just me being an American Republican.

Sarah Palin is very personable. McCain was very wise for picking her. She will definitely bring in some of the women voters. On top of that, she lives by her standards (daughter not getting an abortion)

Obama hasn't proposed a single bill while in the Senate, and you guys back him up for experience?
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Post by Bonnie Prince Charles on Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:06 pm

Obama babbles about helping change america and blaming the republicans for everything going wrong but does nothing himself to help america in senate. Just like hassan Pesaran new article said about windows, that we need a Military leader for V1. McCain is the RL version of windows and he is a Veteran and knows what to do to win a fight. Politics is different though Very Happy
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Post by tim09 on Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:09 pm

Why does her daughter have to live by her standards.

Its not up to her what her daughter does is it?
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Post by twaters on Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:12 pm

Re: wanting Obama to win
twat-ers wrote:'cos he's black.

Do we need another reason?!


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Post by Deathtoll32 on Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:15 pm

She isn't living by her mothers standards. She's living by her standards as well. The entire family is the ideal Republican family.

What has Obama done, seriously?
All that will happen with Obama as president is taxes will rise.
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Post by Skinny Bones Jones on Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:23 pm

I think her daughter would have had an abortion if she weren't a politician hoping to make vice-presidency.
McCain and her appeal to the religious voters, and if her daughter did had an abortion they would lose a lot of that vote.

And although I don't know much on american politics, I have to disagree with you Deathtoll.

McCain's platform is based upon the fact that he can't raise his arms above his head because he fought in a war. That doesn't make him presidential material, but the change and the alternative that Obama brings I think is the way to go.
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Post by Collins on Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:03 pm

I want Obama to win, sadly I think McCain will though
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Post by EmerickciremE on Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:14 pm

They're both excellent choices, really. The media is overplaying the Palin thing(compare her religion to Obama's before you speak). When it comes down to it, it depends on whether you like large or small government.
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Post by shadow on Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:29 am

the way I see it, it's more like: "depends on whether you want a government like the previous one or not"
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