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Post by Bob Boblo on Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:03 pm

Because the Right Wing is the Wrong Wing
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Post by Taytaz on Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:05 pm

ouch
and the left wing is the right wing and centrists are either left or right leaning (wouldn't they fall over?)
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Post by Fearless Dingo on Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:45 pm

Bob Boblo wrote:Because the Right Wing is the Wrong Wing

Another marvellously vague assertion. I'm going to call you out on this one: why on earth should you believe that to be true?
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Post by Nemo Mobilis on Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:03 pm

Go far enough left and you're just about back on the right.
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Post by twaters on Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:12 pm

Go far enough left and you'll be very left. Have a look at the political spectrum - orientation is seen as a grid, not a line. Thus [i repeat] "Go far enough left and you'll...be very left."
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Post by Taytaz on Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:16 pm

Nemo Mobilis wrote:Go far enough left and you're just about back on the right.
hardly
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Post by Nemo Mobilis on Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:56 pm

Well Fascists look an awful lot like Authoritarian Dictatorships for the Proletariat. Both watch you like a hawk and control everything.
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Post by Taytaz on Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:57 pm

yarrr....but far left is not far North...
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Post by rastari on Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:58 pm

indeed
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Post by Nemo Mobilis on Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:03 pm

Besides I'm using the concept of left to right, the "political compass" as a multi axis map of ideology is only a few years old by my estimation. I mean it's based on the Nolan chart from the 70's but has only really taken off in its new form in the last ten years.
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Post by Taytaz on Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:05 pm

yeah, but it is better so we use it
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Post by twaters on Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:28 pm

Well, maybe us lefties are just quicker to accept progress and innovation Razz
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Post by Nemo Mobilis on Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:41 pm

Well then let me retort simply that the crux of this conversation is based originally on the use of terms "Right and "Left" wing, suggesting the use of a single line, and the preference for one end over the other. Secondly I'm the guy who scored Economic Left/Right: -8.00, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.62 on this same test we are now referencing. So I suppose I'm just as progressive.
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Post by Taytaz on Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:51 pm

is -8.62 authoritarian or libertarian?
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Post by Nemo Mobilis on Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:57 pm

Libertarian left.
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Post by Taytaz on Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:58 pm

wow, then you are almost exactly me...but i was -5.9 libertarian...
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Post by Nemo Mobilis on Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:00 pm

Yeah I skew hard to the bottom left for liberty.
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Re: Politics is confusing

Post by shadow on Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:52 am

the origin of this can be found in France. In the French parliament, the the more fascist party's refused to sit besides the communist party's and vica versa so they both sat as far from each other as possible. with the moderate politicians in the middle. That's where the names "right politician" and "left politician" come from.
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Post by rastari on Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:56 am

wow you learn something everyday
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Post by Taytaz on Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:06 am

Maybe the French didn't want to sit next to other French because then they'd have to do that akwaed greeting kiss
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